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John Allen and David Allen

Published: February 10, 2007    Last modified: January 17, 2017

Little Gringley, Retford, Nottinghamshire

Little Gringley, Clarborough, Nottinghamshire

A couple of weeks ago I received an email via the feedback form on my website.

"My name’s John and I’ve just discovered we share the same great-great-grandfather (John Allen, b Little Gringley c1830)."

"I see your line develops through Zillah Allen, whereas mine comes from her younger brother David (b 1867), my great grandfather. The tree I saw had no other details of him so I will be happy to fill you in."

This is very exciting news.

As Juanita Lewis indicated at our meeting in 2006, and John has confirmed in a subsequent email, there appears to have been, at this time, two John ALLENs living at Little Gringley.

John ALLEN 1827-Deceased (christened 13/4/1827) to parents John ALLEN abt. 1879-Deceased) and Elizabeth ALLEN (née Elizabeth BIRD 1796-Deceased)

John ALLEN 1831-Deceased (christened 15/4/1831) to parents Thomas abt. 1799-1876 and Elizabeth ALLEN (née Elizabeth DEWICK d.1860).

Not suprisingly this has lead to some confusion. Hopefully, now I know which line to research, I can make some progress with my great great grandfather John ALLEN 1831-Deceased.

This news has enabled me to add additional information to my GEDCOM regarding David ALLEN 1867-1902, one of Ziller JACKLIN (née Ziller ALLEN 1858-1949)'s brothers.

John Allen and Elizabeth Bird

Published: January 13, 2006    Last modified: January 17, 2017

Ever since I started researching my family history I have been frustrated by the apparent lack of information available for my great great grandfather John ALLEN 1831-Deceased.

I know he lived at Little Gringley, Nottinghamshire, but there were many branches of the ALLEN family in and around the parish of Clarborough, Nottinghamshire and it has been difficult to associate the various individuals with the various households.

Well thanks to a very kind lady from the USA with whom I may share a common ancestor, many of these quandaries have been resolved. I now have a father, mother and siblings for John ALLEN 1831-Deceased the father of my great grandmother Ziller JACKLIN (née Ziller ALLEN 1858-1949).

John ALLEN abt.1789-Deceased born about 1789 and Elizabeth ALLEN (née Elizabeth BIRD 1796-Deceased) born 17th January 1796 married on the 28th November 1816.
John and Elizabeth raised 9 children (there may have been others that died in childhood) and I will list them in chronological order:

Gervase ALLEN, born 1817
Mary ALLEN, born 1818
George ALLEN, born 1823
William ALLEN, born 1824
John ALLEN, born abt. 1827
Harriet ALLEN, born 1828
Vincent ALLEN, born 1833
Jane ALLEN, born 1834
Hannah ALLEN, born 1837

I have a slight discrepancy with the date of birth for John ALLEN (son) but I'm sure a little more research will resolve this.

This lady has a great deal of information regarding the ALLENs who emigrated to the USA in the latter half of the 19th century and I will eventually document and comment on some of these branches.

2007-01-30 Having met with Juanita Lewis (the lady I mention) and compared research, Juanita believes we have two distict lines of ALLEN families and two John ALLENs. I am inclined to agree and desperately need to obtain further documentation.

Old Comments:

Family in the island of Puerto Rico
Submitted by Anonymous on Fri, 2006-01-27 22:55

We have your same last name, ancestors came to the island, it seems that the soldier that came or Marine that came in the 1800's liked it so much that he stayed,
if you want more info let me know
my name is Elizabeth.