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Alice Turner 1862-Deceased: Birth Certificate

Published: April 22, 2007    Last modified: February 10, 2017

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Previous research revealed my 2nd great grand aunt, Alice TURNER 1862-Deceased, the daughter of Mary Ann TURNER (née Mary Ann JENNINGS 1828-Deceased) and Edwin TURNER 1827-Deceased residing at King Street, Nether Hallam, Sheffield, Yorkshire was baptised on September 10, 1864, by John Livesey at the Church of Saint Philip, Shalesmoor, Sheffield.

I expected her date of birth to be about June, 1863 but her birth certificate records the date as 13th August, 1862 at 99 King Street, Nether Hallam, Sheffield, Yorkshire.

The primary reason for obtaining this birth certificate was to help to establish my 3rd great grandmother, Mary Ann TURNER's maiden name; this is recorded as Mary Ann TURNER (née Mary Ann JENNINGS 1828-Deceased). This information provides the key to another branch of the family and hopefully some online research may provide a few clues.

A previous attempt by Sheffield Register Office to locate a birth certificate for my 2nd great grandmother, Mary Ann BELLAMY (née Mary Ann TURNER 1861-Deceased) was unproductive, so I am hoping this additional information may be of help in obtaining this certificate.

As soon as time allows I will post a full transcript of Alice TURNER 1862-Deceased's birth certificate and update my GEDCOM.

Alice Turner 1862-Deceased

Published: April 2, 2007    Last modified: November 7, 2016

I have spent a great deal of time trying to establish a maiden name for Mary Ann TURNER 1828-Deceased, the mother of Mary Ann BELLAMY (née TURNER 1861-Deceased) the wife of Joseph BELLAMY 1857-Deceased. I have a copy of the marriage certificate for Joseph BELLAMY 1857-Deceased and Mary Ann BELLAMY (née TURNER 1861-Deceased) but Sheffield Register Office could not retrieve a birth certificate for Mary Ann BELLAMY (née TURNER 1861-Deceased).

I find this rather puzzling since FreeBMD records a birth during 1860, at Sheffield, of a Mary Anne TURNER. So in order to proceed further I have turned my attention to Mary Ann's siblings.

Originally I had planned to try and retrieve a birth certificate for Edwin TURNER 1859-Deceased but further research has produced a christening record for Alice TURNER 1862-Deceased. If my research is correct she was baptised on the 10th of September, 1864 at the Church of Saint Philip, Shalesmoor, Sheffield.

I have posted a request for a Birth Certificate to Sheffield Register Office and this time hopefully I will get a result.

Notes:
This is almost certainly the correct area of Sheffield since as a young child in the 1950's I remember my visits to the Saint Philips Road area of Sheffield and in particular to my uncle Edwin BELLAMY 1919-Deceased and aunt Margaret (Peggy) BELLAMY (née Margaret KETTLEWELL 1924-Deceased) and their only son and my cousin Philip BELLAMY 1948-Deceased. Sadly Philip died in his early twenties.

The family lived in a terrace house on a cul-de-sac behind the Roscoe Cinema, though the whole of this area was later cleared to make way for road improvements and the new tram system. One of my earliest memories is attending a 5th of November bonfire night party. This was a communal event with the bonfire built in the middle of the cobbled street and the neighbours contributing baked potatoes, hot chestnuts, slabs of black toffee and toffee apples.

Joseph Bellamy and Mary Ann Turner: Marriage Certificate

Published: January 25, 2007    Last modified: October 12, 2017

Here are the details from the Marriage Certificate of Joseph BELLAMY 1857-Deceased and Mary Ann BELLAMY (née Mary Ann TURNER 1861-Deceased).

Marriage Certificate
Registration District: Sheffield
Date: 1879
Marriage solemnized at: St Stephens Church in the Parish of St Stephens, Sheffield in the County of York
No.: 329
When Married: December 1st 1879
Name and Surname: Joseph Bellamy, Mary Ann Turner
Age: 23, 20
Condition: Batchelor, Spinster
Rank or Profession: File Cutter, _____
Residence at the time of Marriage: Bond Street, Bellefield Lane
Father's Name and Surname: William Bellamy, Edwin Turner
Rank or Profession of Father: File Cutter, Spring Knife Cutler
Married in the: Church of St Stephen according to the Rites and Ceremonies of the Established Church, by____or
after Banns by me J N? Scholefield
This marriage was solemnised between us: Joseph Bellamy his X mark, Mary Ann Turner her X mark
in the Presence of us, George Frost, Mary Ann Whitham her X mark

Visit the website for the Church of Saint Stephen, Netherthorpe, Sheffield.

Photograph 1 of Church of Saint Stephen, Netherthorpe - GENUKI
Photograph 2 of Church of Saint Stephen, Netherthorpe - GENUKI

So now I can confirm Joseph BELLAMY 1857-Deceased's father as one William BELLAMY 1824-Deceased and Mary Ann BELLAMY (née Mary Ann TURNER 1861-Deceased)'s father as one Edwin TURNER 1827-Deceased. It also provides me with 2 hitherto unknown addresses.

Of further interest are the two witness names of George FROST and Mary Ann WHITHAM. Are they family or friends?

Sheffield Register Office: Yet again

Published: December 30, 2005    Last modified: February 4, 2017

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I happened to be in Sheffield today so I took the opportunity to call at the register office to check if the certificates I had requested were ready for collection.

The staff had retrieved the birth certificate of Joseph BELLAMY 1857-Deceased and the marriage certificate of Joseph BELLAMY 1857-Deceased and Mary Ann TURNER 1861-Deceased, but had not been able to locate a birth certificate for Mary Ann TURNER 1861-Deceased. The Deputy Registrar very kindly showed the number of searches his staff had carried out without yielding a useful result. They had obviously spent some considerable time on these searches for which I am very grateful and once again I express my appreciation of the registry office staff.

Having analysed the data from these certificates I have corroborated most of the findings from my original research. I have also established the maiden name of William BELLAMY 1824-Deceased's wife Emma: Emma BRADSHAW 1830-Deceased. The marriage certificate confirms Edwin TURNER 1827-Deceased to be the father of Mary Ann.

Joseph Bellamy and Mary Ann Turner

Published: December 16, 2005    Last modified: November 5, 2016

Realising I have been researching the wrong line of BELLAMY, and having taken a fresh look at my notes, I decided to spend time researching Mary Ann BELLAMY (née Mary Ann TURNER 1861-Deceased), Joseph BELLAMY 1857-Deceased's wife.

My notes show I had already established a marriage in 1879 between one Joseph BELLAMY 1857-Deceased and one Mary Ann BELLAMY (née Mary Ann TURNER 1861-Deceased), and I have no reason to doubt the cogency of this.

A search of FreeBMD shows a birth for a Mary Ann BELLAMY (née Mary Ann TURNER 1861-Deceased) in September 1861. This corresponds with the census information. Unfortunately, at the time of writing, the FreeBMD database holds very few records of birth for the year 1857. This could be why after many hours searching, trying variations of spelling and several districts I have yet to find a record of birth for Joseph BELLAMY 1857-Deceased.

A search of the 1871 British Census reveals this household:

FHJ Ref: 022
Census: England and Wales Census 1871
Place:
Household: Edwin Turner

SurnameFirst name(s)RelStatusSexAgeOccupationWhere BornRemarks
TurnerEdwinHeadMarriedMale44Sheffield, Yorkshire
TurnerMary AnnWifeMarriedFemale43Sheffield, Yorkshire
TurnerElizabethDaughterSingleFemale20Sheffield, Yorkshire
TurnerEdwinSonMale12Sheffield, Yorkshire
TurnerMary AnnDaughterFemale10Sheffield, Yorkshire
TurnerAliceDaughterFemale8Sheffield, Yorkshire
TurnerWilliamSonMale5Sheffield, Yorkshire
TurnerAnnDaughterFemale3Sheffield, Yorkshire
TurnerLillyDaughterFemale1Sheffield, Yorkshire

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Likewise a search for BELLAMY households returns the following:

The date of birth for Joseph BELLAMY 1857-Deceased also concurs with my findings.

FHJ Ref: 023
Census: England and Wales Census 1871
Place:
Household: Sarah Bellamy

SURNAMEFIRST NAME(SRELSTATUSSEXAGEOCCUPATIONWHERE BORNREMARKS
BellamySarahHeadFemale67Sheffield, Yorkshire
BellamyWilliamSonMarriedMale47Sheffield, Yorkshire
BellamyEmmaDaughter-in-LawMarriedFemale41Sheffield, Yorkshire
BellamyWilliamGrandsonMale19Sheffield, Yorkshire
BellamyJosephGrandsonMale14Sheffield, Yorkshire
BellamyWilheminaGranddaughterFemale3Sheffield, Yorkshire

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Not wishing to make the same mistake twice, and since I had planned to visit Sheffield today, I called at the register office and ordered the following certificates:

Marriage Certificate: Joseph BELLAMY 1857-Deceased and Mary Ann BELLAMY (née Mary Ann TURNER 1861-Deceased)

Birth Certificate: Joseph BELLAMY 1857-Deceased

Birth Certificate: Mary Ann BELLAMY (née Mary Ann TURNER 1861-Deceased)

These should be available in a few days time and hopefully will confirm the results of my research.