Category Archives: Little Gringley

John Allen and David Allen

Published: February 10, 2007    Last modified: May 22, 2022

Little Gringley, Retford, Nottinghamshire

Little Gringley, Clarborough, Nottinghamshire

A couple of weeks ago I received an email via the feedback form on my jacklin.info website.

"My name’s John and I’ve just discovered we share the same great-great-grandfather (John Allen, b Little Gringley c1830)."

"I see your line develops through Zillah Allen, whereas mine comes from her younger brother David (b 1867), my great grandfather. The tree I saw had no other details of him so I will be happy to fill you in."

This is very exciting news.

As Juanita Lewis indicated at our meeting in 2006, and John has confirmed in a subsequent email, there appears to have been, at this time, two John ALLENs living at Little Gringley.

John ALLEN 1827-Deceased (christened 13/4/1827) to parents John ALLEN abt. 1879-Deceased) and Elizabeth ALLEN (née Elizabeth BIRD 1796-Deceased)

John ALLEN 1831-Deceased (christened 15/4/1831) to parents Thomas abt. 1799-1876 and Elizabeth ALLEN (née Elizabeth DEWICK d.1860).

Not suprisingly this has lead to some confusion. Hopefully, now I know which line to research, I can make some progress with my great great grandfather John ALLEN 1831-Deceased.

This news has enabled me to add additional information to my GEDCOM regarding David ALLEN 1867-1902, one of Ziller JACKLIN (née Ziller ALLEN 1858-1949)'s brothers.

Joseph Allen and Hannah Allen

Published: January 30, 2007    Last modified: May 22, 2022

Joseph Allen and Hannah Allen
Church of Saint Peter, Hayton, Nottinghamshire

In May 2006 we travelled to Retford, north Nottinghamshire and met up with Juanita Lewis and her son Al Lewis. Juanita and Al had travelled from the USA on a weeks holiday in order to discover more of their family history. The day turned out to be full of surprises and the discovery of this headstone was one of them.

Juanita is researching the ALLEN line of her family so we spent some time visiting various locations Juanita and Al wished to see, with Al doing an exceptional job driving on the 'wrong side' of the road and negotiating the narrow lanes of north Nottinghamshire.

Our first visit was to the Church of Saint John the Baptist at Clarborough. Unfortunately as is the norm in these times the church was locked so we wandered about the graveyard, took some photographs and searched the headstones for clues.

On leaving Saint John's, and quite by accident, we came across the Church of Saint Peter at nearby Hayton. It appeared many of the headstones had been removed so we wandered in and amongst those that remained searching the legible headstones for family names. As usual many of the inscriptions, due to time and erosion, were now illegible so we were tremendously lucky to we find a headstone for Joseph ALLEN and Hannah ALLEN which was perfectly legible.

The inscription on the headstone reads:

Loving Memory Of
Joseph
Beloved Husband Of
Hannah Allen
Died May 24th 1927
Aged 74 Years
At Rest
Also Of Hannah
Wife Of The Above
Died March 19th 1976
Aged 83 Years

It was only this evening while studying my photographs of the headstone in order to decipher the inscription that I noticed, and even then only after several readings, the difference in ages.

As yet I have not had the time to carry out further research into which line of the ALLEN families Joseph may originate. Indeed Juanita may be a good starting point in trying to answer this question.

Old Comments:

Gravestone Hayton Churchyard Nottinghamshire
Submitted by Neil Jacklin on Sat, 2010-01-02 12:03

Edgar, thank you so much for taking the time to leave a comment. Research shows there to be several ALLEN lines in and around the Clarborough, Nottinghamshire area. This information is very welcome and I will make Juanita aware of these facts, since she too is researching an ALLEN line from this area.

Gravestone Hayton Churchyard Nottinghamshire
Submitted by Edgar Allen on Fri, 2010-01-01 14:55

The Gravestone to which you refer is that of my late grandfather Joseph and grandmother Hannah Allen. You are indeed correct with regard to the differences in their ages and the same curiosity that led me to trace my family tree. My grandmother Hannah or as I found her real name Annie married my grandfather in 1912 in Lincoln. He was aged 60 and she was 20. Hannah was my grandfathers second wife and had been the housemaid to him and his first wife Anne when they lived in Sheffield. I have not been able to establish why, but after the death of his first wife my grandfather moved to Carr Road in Lincoln. When he married Hannah (Nee Annie Hodkin) she was already 7 months pregnant with my Aunt Emma and clearly the reason they married.

So far I have traced the male line of my family Allen back to 1720 in Sheffield where they were cutlers and file makers. I have not been able to trace any association to the Allen's that lived in the villages of Little Gringley and Clarborough.

Good wishes and good luck with your research.

Edgar Allen

William Crofts and Louisa Loveday

Published: January 13, 2006    Last modified: November 6, 2016

Headstone: Louisa Crofts (née Louisa Loveday)
Church of Saint Helen, Grove, Nottinghamshire

This could well be another sad story.

In the churchyard of the Church of Saint Helen, Grove Nottinghamshire, is this headstone for Louisa CROFTS (née Louisa LOVEDAY), wife of William CROFTS of Little Gringley. I remember taking this photograph with the intention, at a later date, of determining Louisa CROFTS' maiden name. I thought she may well be an ALLEN. Unfortunately I had to face my camera into very strong sunlight, as a result this photograph is of very poor quality. If at sometime in the future I have the opportunity to return to Grove, I will locate the headstone and try again.

A search online with appropriate dates reveals just one wedding for the district of East Retford (the most likely district). The March quarter of 1875 returns the following marriages:

CROFTS, William
HUTCHINSON, Mary Jane
LOVEDAY, Louisa
OSTLER, Aaron

So did William CROFTS of Little Gringley marry Louisa LOVEDAY? If so was Louisa already sick and likely to die? Is this the reason they married? Or was Louisa just unfortunate to die immediately after her marriage.

Or is this all just conjecture! Perhaps I will never know.

Updates:
2006-01-13 A search of marriages after 1875 in the district of East Retford returns these for the June quarter of 1879:

BOND, Jane
CROFTS, William
EBSWORTH, Algernon Frederick
VERNON, Mary Frances H

Is this the same William CROFTS? Did he marry again? Interestingly the owner of Grove Hall at this time was a VERNON. Is there a connection?

This definitely is conjecture!

2006-01-14 Well I was correct about the link between VERNON and Grove Hall. Mary Frances HARCOURT-VERNON married Algernon Frederick EBSWORTH on the 24th April 1879. Certainly this couple would have had a rather different lifestyle to poor William CROFTS.

Read more about Mary Frances HARCOURT-VERNON and Reverend Algernon Frederick EBSWORTH at thePeerage.com.

I presume William CROFTS married Jane BOND. This may be of use to other researchers.

2007-03-11 I did indeed take another photograph of this headstone. When Juanita and Al Lewis visited the UK we visited the Church of Saint Helen at Grove and I came across this headstone again. Unfortunately we were short on time and the sun was positioned exactly as the year before. Consequently the later photograph is more over exposed than the original!

John Allen and Elizabeth Bird

Published: January 13, 2006    Last modified: May 22, 2022

Ever since I started researching my family history I have been frustrated by the apparent lack of information available for my great great grandfather John ALLEN 1831-Deceased.

I know he lived at Little Gringley, Nottinghamshire, but there were many branches of the ALLEN family in and around the parish of Clarborough, Nottinghamshire and it has been difficult to associate the various individuals with the various households.

Well thanks to a very kind lady from the USA with whom I may share a common ancestor, many of these quandaries have been resolved. I now have a father, mother and siblings for John ALLEN 1831-Deceased the father of my great grandmother Ziller JACKLIN (née Ziller ALLEN 1858-1949).

John ALLEN abt.1789-Deceased born about 1789 and Elizabeth ALLEN (née Elizabeth BIRD 1796-Deceased) born 17th January 1796 married on the 28th November 1816.
John and Elizabeth raised 9 children (there may have been others that died in childhood) and I will list them in chronological order:

Gervase ALLEN, born 1817
Mary ALLEN, born 1818
George ALLEN, born 1823
William ALLEN, born 1824
John ALLEN, born abt. 1827
Harriet ALLEN, born 1828
Vincent ALLEN, born 1833
Jane ALLEN, born 1834
Hannah ALLEN, born 1837

I have a slight discrepancy with the date of birth for John ALLEN (son) but I'm sure a little more research will resolve this.

This lady has a great deal of information regarding the ALLENs who emigrated to the USA in the latter half of the 19th century and I will eventually document and comment on some of these branches.

Updates:
2007-01-30 Having met with Juanita Lewis (the lady I mention) and compared research, Juanita believes we have two distict lines of ALLEN families and two John ALLENs. I am inclined to agree and desperately need to obtain further documentation.

Old Comments:

Family in the island of Puerto Rico
Submitted by Anonymous on Fri, 2006-01-27 22:55

We have your same last name, ancestors came to the island, it seems that the soldier that came or Marine that came in the 1800's liked it so much that he stayed,
if you want more info let me know
my name is Elizabeth.

Vincent Allen: Update

Published: January 8, 2006    Last modified: November 14, 2016

In this post about Vincent ALLEN, I surmised he and John ALLEN may be brothers.

A recent comment on this post states:

"The 1841 census has both John and Vincent in the same household as John and Elizabeth ALLEN at Little Gringley."

I am very grateful for this information and I will follow this line of research a little further.

Jesse Butroid 1862-1943 and Sarah Allen 1862-1943: Family tree updated

Published: November 1, 2005    Last modified: February 17, 2017

I finally made time to update the family tree of my great grand aunt Sarah ALLEN 1862-1943 sister of my great grandmother Ziller JACKLIN (née Ziller ALLEN 1858-1949) and both born at Little Gringley, Nottinghamshire. I am indebted to a direct descendant (actually my 3rd cousin 1 time removed) of Sarah BUTROID (née Sarah ALLEN 1862-1943) and Jesse BUTROID 1862-1943 for providing me with the details of their marriage. I wrote about this in an earlier article. I have updated my GEDCOM to reflect the new details.

This update adds the following descendants: Fanny MARSH 1891-1972, Elsie BUTROYD 1914-1985 and George Leslie GRANTHAM 1911-1955. Other descendants are still alive.

James Littlewood and Sarah Burton

Published: October 29, 2005    Last modified: November 1, 2016

The information I found at NOTTSGEN-L Archives though not yet confirmed, leads me to infer the following:

In 1799 my gggg grandfather James LITTLEWOOD of East Retford, Nottinghamshire married Sarah BURTON of West Retford, Nottinghamshire at West Retford.

They had eleven children one of whom was my ggg grandfather Joseph LITTLEWOOD 1811-Deceased.

In 1831 Joseph LITTLEWOOD 1811-Deceased married Zillah FENTON 1811-Deceased at Clarborough, East Retford, Nottinghamshire.

If all this is correct then it means I have gone back one more generation and through to the 18th century and have more particulars to add to this site and my GEDCOM file.

Zillah Fenton: Search

Published: October 29, 2005    Last modified: May 22, 2022

Late last night while mulling over how to proceed with my research into John ALLEN 1831-Deceased and Fanny LITTLEWOOD 1832-1915 I noticed Joseph LITTLEWOOD 1811-Deceased and Zillah FENTON 1811-Deceased in my family tree but I had marked it 'tentative'.

I have always had a certain amount of success searching on either 'Little Gringley' or the various forms of the forename 'Ziller' my great grandmother Ziller ALLEN 1858-1949 used. I searched for 'Zillah Fenton' and surprisingly it returned just this one result from NOTTSGEN-L Archives.

Though this post is from a 2001 archive I emailed the contact address and was pleasantly surpised when shortly afterwards I received a reply.

Being rather late I abandoned further research but I'm rather excited by this latest discovery.

National Register of Archives

Published: October 15, 2005    Last modified: November 1, 2016

Searches on the National Archives site for Little Gringley and
Clarborough produced the following results:

Little Gringley:

GB/NNAF/O72550
Little Gringley Wesleyan Methodist Church
Little Gringley, Nottinghamshire
Scope: 1831-38: Sunday school records
Repository: Nottinghamshire Archives
Record Reference: MR1/305
NRA catalogue reference: NRA 17312 East Retford Meths
Clarborough:

GB/NNAF/O72568
Clarborough Primitive Methodist Church
Clarborough, Nottinghamshire
Scope: 1878-1966: minutes and accounts
Repository: Nottinghamshire Archives
Record Reference: MR1/520-34
NRA catalogue reference: NRA 17312 East Retford Meths
The Nottinghamshire County Council Archives page is not very informative as to access, other than providing contact details and opening times.

Sometime soon I need to set aside a few days mid-week and visit East Retford and Nottinghamshire archives in order to further research some of the leads I have found over the last 6 months.

Bassetlaw Museum

Published: October 14, 2005    Last modified: May 21, 2022

While searching online for Little Gringley I came across Bassetlaw Museum. Little Gringley and the two market towns of Retford and Worksop are part of the North Nottinghamshire administrative area known as Bassetlaw.

The Welchman Archive of photographic images is well worth browsing.

"The photograph collection contains over 27,000 photographs of the towns and villages of North Nottinghamshire and people who lived there from about 1870 to the present day. 8,000 general photographs from the museum's collections have been added to the Welchman Project images."

I found many photographs of ALLENs, several LITTLEWOODs, plus several references to Little Gringley.