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Zillah Allen: Forum message: Update

Published: May 6, 2005    Last modified: January 14, 2017

I was a little quick off the mark with my previous post. The email address I replied to was indeed 'live' and I received a speedy reply. Unfortunately it became clear that we have two different families here, though I image if we go a little further back in time they will undoubtedly be closely linked.

Having checked the England and Wales Census 1891 there are indeed two Zillah ALLENs recorded in Nottinghamshire:

FHJ Ref: 012
Census: England and Wales Census 1891
Place: Carlton, Nottinghamshire, England
Household: Richard Allen

SURNAMEFIRST NAME(S)RELSTATUSSEXAGEOCCUPATIONWHERE BORNREMARKS
AllenRichardHeadMarriedMale45Frame W KnitterCarlton, Nottinghamshire
AllenZillahWifeMarriedFemale63EmbroiderCarlton, Nottinghamshire
AllenMaryDaughterUFemale19EmbroiderCarlton, Nottinghamshire
AllenJohnSonUMale17Frame W KnitterCarlton, Nottinghamshire
AllenJoseph GSonUMale10ScholarCarlton, Nottinghamshire
AllenElizaDaughterFemale8ScholarCarlton, Nottinghamshire
AllenHarriottDaughterFemale6ScholarCarlton, Nottinghamshire
WalkinsonAmosMale11Carlton, Nottinghamshire

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The census record above shows a Zillah ALLEN at Carlton, Nottinghamshire.

The other is my great grandmother Ziller JACKLIN (née ALLEN) 1858-1949, who at this time was still single and living with her sister-in-law at East Drayton, Nottinghamshire, England.

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Zillah Allen: Forum message

Published: May 5, 2005    Last modified: November 14, 2016

I found this message on the 'Allens - Nottinghamshire' forum at Genealogy.com

Looking for descendants of John Allen and Emily Whitbread. They had been living in Carlton, Nottinghamshire in 1915+. One of their daughters was named Zillah, after her grandmother on the paternal side.

This is almost certainly a reference to Ziller (Zillah) JACKLIN (née ALLEN). I have replied to the given email address, just hope it is still 'live'.

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Hannah Cutts (née Hannah Allen)

Published: April 28, 2005    Last modified: March 3, 2015

An online search confirmed my intuition:

Marriages Dec 1872
ALLEN Hannah, Rotherham
COE William Henry, Rotherham
CUTTS Frederick Thomas, Rotherham
GOLLAND Fanny, Rotherham

So is Hannah CUTTS (née ALLEN) Ziller ALLEN's sister?

Updates:
2007-08-31 Though I still do not have any documentary evidence this Hannah CUTTS is undoubtedly Hannah ALLEN, an older sister of Ziller JACKLIN (née ALLEN).

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Frederick Cutts and Hannah Cutts (neé Hannah Allen)

Published: April 28, 2005    Last modified: October 12, 2017

I found a reference to Little Gringley, Nottinghamshire, England on Treetonweb1891 Census. This page records an entry transcribed from the England and Wales Census 1891 for the CUTTS household in Treeton, Rotherham, Yorkshire, England and lists:

FHJ Ref: 011
Census: England and Wales Census 1891
Place: 19 Mill Lane, Treeton, Rotherham, Yorkshire, England
Household: Frederick Cutts

SURNAMEFIRST NAME(S)RELSTATUSSEXAGEOCCUPATIONWHERE BORNREMARKS
CuttsFrederickHeadMarriedMale36Coal MinerMorthen, Yorkshire
CuttsHannahWifeMarriedFemale37Little Gringley, Nottinghamshire
CuttsElizaDaughterFemale10ScholarTreeton, Yorkshire
CuttsLilyDaughterFemale3Treeton, Yorkshire

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Little Gringley being the birthplace of Hannah CUTTS (neé Hannah ALLEN) and with Little Gringley being a sparsely populated hamlet, this could well be a clue worth saving for research into the ALLEN family. The village of Treeton is only a few miles from Aston-cum-Aughton and Swallownest where Daniel JACKLIN and Ziller JACKLIN (née ALLEN) lived after they were married.

The Treetonweb site is well worth browsing as it contains many interesting historical facts about the coal mining area Daniel and Ziller relocated to, presumably for Daniel to find work in the local coal mines.

Updates:
2017-10-12 The Treetonweb web site has been down for quite some time and is most likely 'dead'.

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Allen

Published: April 27, 2005    Last modified: March 8, 2015

I discovered a couple of other ALLEN households where the birthplace is recorded as Clarborough, Nottinghamshire:

FHJ Ref: 9
Census: England and Wales Census 1891
Place: Clarborough, Nottinghamshire, England
Household: John Allen

Surname First name(s) Rel Status Sex Age Where Born Occupation Remarks
Allen John Head M Male 34 Clarboro, Nottingham, England Gardner
Allen Jane Wife M Female 35 Misterton, Nottingham, England
Allen Frances A. Niece Female 5 Woodset, York, England Scholar

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FHJ Ref: 10
Census: England and Wales Census 1891
Place: Clarborough, Nottinghamshire, England
Household: John Allen
Surname First name(s) Rel Status Sex Age Where Born Occupation Remarks
Allen John Head M Male 52 Clarboro, Nottingham, England Brickyard Manager
Allen Sarah Wife M Female 47 Clarboro, Nottingham, England Manager Wife
Allen Ruth Daur Female 15 Clarboro, Nottingham, England Manager Daur
Allen Samuel Son Male 6 Carlton, Nottingham, England Scholar
Lesle Rachel G Daur Female 11m Tickhill, York, England

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They may or may not prove useful in subsequent research.

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Elizabeth Allen

Published: April 27, 2005    Last modified: March 8, 2015

I am aware of Ziller (Zillah) ALLEN living in the household of George SMITHSON at East Drayton, Nottinghamshire but when I carried out a search for ALLEN on the England and Wales Census 1881 I also found an entry for an Elizabeth ALLEN in this household.

FHJ Ref: 6
Census: England and Wales Census 1881
Place: East Drayton, Nottinghamshire, England
Household: John Scott

Surname First name(s) Rel Status Sex Age Where Born Occupation Remarks
Scott John Head U Male 74 E Drayton, Nottingham, England Retired Farmer
Salmon Jane Sister M Female 66 E Drayton, Nottingham, England Housekeeper
Scott John (Junior) Nephew U Male 30 E Drayton, Nottingham, England Farmer of 56 Acres Employing 1 Lab
Allen Elizabeth Serv U Female 17 Grove, Nottingham, England Domestic Serv General

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I note this Elizabeth ALLEN's birthplace is given as Grove, Nottingham, England.

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Vincent Allen

Published: April 27, 2005    Last modified: November 5, 2016

I browsed through the England and Wales Census 1881 entries for Little Gringley, Nottinghamshire. A surprising number of dwellings are recorded, certainly more than my recent visit suggested. I was primarily searching for ALLEN and found the following:

FHJ Ref: 014
Census: England and Wales Census 1881
Place: Little Gringley, Clarborough, Nottinghamshire
Household: Vincent Allen

SURNAMEFIRST NAME(S)RELSTATUSSEXAGEOCCUPATIONWHERE BORNREMARKS
AllenVincentHeadMarriedMale49Agricultural LabourerClarborough, Nottinghamshire
AllenMillicentWifeMarriedFemale50Washer WomanRanskill, Nottinghamshire

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I wonder if it is safe to assume that Vincent ALLEN is a brother to John ALLEN?

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Vincent and John Allen
Submitted by Anonymous on Sun, 2006-01-08 05:42

The 1841 census has both John and Vincent in the same household of John and Elizabeth Allen at Little Gringley.

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Ziller Jacklin (née Ziller Allen 1858-1949): Census: Little Gringley

Published: April 26, 2005    Last modified: May 22, 2022

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Ziller Jacklin (née Ziller Allen 1858-1949)

The England and Wales Census 1881 records an Elizabeth ALLEN at Little Gringley, Nottinghamshire. I feel sure this must be Ziller JACKLIN (née Ziller ALLEN 1858-1949). My father recalls he knew his grandmother as Ziller but just to add to the confusion, her marriage certificate records the name Zellaby.

FHJ Ref: 008
Census: England and Wales Census 1881
Place: Little Gringley, Retford, Nottinghamshire
Household: John Allen

SURNAMEFIRST NAME(S) RELSTATUSSEXAGEOCCUPATIONWHERE BORNREMARKS
AllenJohnHeadMarriedMale50Agricultural LabourerLittle Gringley, Clarborough, Nottinghamshire
AllenFannyWifeMarriedFemale49East Retford, Nottinghamshire
AllenElizabethDaurUFemale20General Servant DomesticLittle Gringley, Clarborough, Nottinghamshire
AllenDavidSonUMale14Agricultural LabourerLittle Gringley, Clarborough, Nottinghamshire
AllenJohnSonUMale12ScholarLittle Gringley, Clarborough, Nottinghamshire
AllenSallyDaurUFemale10ScholarLittle Gringley, Clarborough, Nottinghamshire
AllenTomSonUMale7ScholarLittle Gringley, Clarborough, Nottinghamshire
AllenHarrietDaurUFemale4Little Gringley, Clarborough, Nottinghamshire
AllenJaneG DaurUFemale5Workhouse, Clarborough, Nottinghamshire
AllenGeorgianaG DaurUFemale2Workhouse, Clarborough, Nottinghamshire

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I think I need to obtain a copy of Ziller's birth certificate in order to clarify both her name at birth and her place of birth.

Updates:
2007-08-31 I later discovered Elizabeth ALLEN 1861-Deceased was a younger sister of Ziller JACKLIN (née Ziller ALLEN 1858-1949). The England and Wales Census 1881 records Ziller (Zillah) now living with the George SMITHSON 1830-Deceased household at East Drayton, Nottinghamshire.

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Daniel Jacklin 1862-1953

Published: April 26, 2005    Last modified: February 2, 2017

An online search for Daniel JACKLIN 1862-1953 (my paternal great grandfather) lead me to a redundant link; fortunately the cached pages were available. These pages are a transcription of the England and Wales Census 1891.

I feel sure I have retrieved this entry before, either way a new search provides this record:

FHJ Ref: 007
Census: England and Wales Census 1891
Place: Bradley Yard, Aston With Aughton, Rotherham, Yorkshire
Household: Daniel Jacklin

SURNAMEFIRST NAME(S)RELSTATUSSEXAGEOCCUPATIONWHERE BORNREMARKS
JacklinDanHeadMarriedM28Coal MinerWhaddon, Cambridgeshire,
JacklinZillerWifeMarriedF32Gringley, Lincolnshire
AllenElizabethNieceSF9Gringley, Lincolnshire
Note: Gringley, Lincolnshire ought to be Little Gringley, Nottinghamshire

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I know Daniel JACKLIN 1862-1953 and Ziller JACKLIN (née Ziller ALLEN 1858-1949) lived at Aston-cum-Aughton before moving to the Darnall area of Sheffield, but now I have the actual address. Even more interesting is the record of Elizabeth ALLEN 1861-Deceased 9 (niece), I guess when I can find the time it will be of value to establish Elizabeth's parents.

This entry records both Ziller and Elizabeth having been born at Gringley, Lincolnshire; other records show Ziller having being born at Little Gringley, Nottinghamshire. This is somewhat confusing! The two villages are only a few miles apart and I seem to recall my father speaking of relatives living at Gringley-on-the-Hill and at nearby Everton.

As usual a great deal more research is required.

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