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Elizabeth 'Betty' Allen: Intrigue

Published: April 18, 2008    Last modified: February 2, 2017

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Church of All Saints, Aston with Aughton, Rotherham, Yorkshire

Recently I was discussing with my mother the news regarding Harriet BARLOW (née Harriet ALLEN 1877-1958) and Mary BACON (née Mary ALLEN 1871-1951). We were chatting about Daniel JACKLIN 1862-1953 and Ziller JACKLIN (née Ziller ALLEN 1858-1949) and if they ever had visits from other members of the family (Daniel and Ziller moved from Bradley Yard, Swallownest, Yorkshire and lived the rest of their lives at Langley Street, Darnall, Sheffield, Yorkshire). My mother happened to mention that they brought up a young girl known by the name of Betty, and Betty would occasionally visit. Immediately I recalled the census record shown below which records Elizabeth aged 9 and described as a niece; undoubtedly this is Betty.

The England and Wales Census 1891 records the following:

FHJ Ref: 007
Census: England and Wales Census 1891
Place: Bradley Yard, Aston With Aughton, Rotherham, Yorkshire
Household: Daniel Jacklin

SURNAMEFIRST NAME(S)RELSTATUSSEXAGEOCCUPATIONWHERE BORNREMARKS
JacklinDanHeadMarriedM28Coal MinerWhaddon, Cambridgeshire,
JacklinZillerWifeMarriedF32Gringley, Lincolnshire
AllenElizabethNieceSF9Gringley, Lincolnshire
Note: Gringley, Lincolnshire ought to be Little Gringley, Nottinghamshire

To view this table full width please click here.

My mother went on to say how in November 1949, Betty attended Ziller's funeral, but my mother could not remember any details regarding her family background.

Was Elizabeth really a niece or maybe a child from another relationship? The mystery and intrigue continues.

Updates:
2008-09-22 This weekend I spoke with my aunt and she understands that after Betty's father died Betty was 'adopted' by Daniel JACKLIN 1862-1953 and Ziller JACKLIN (née Ziller ALLEN 1858-1949). Apparently her mother was already dead. On getting married Betty moved to Bury, Lancashire.

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Mary Allen 1871-1951 and George Bacon 1878-1944

Published: April 17, 2008    Last modified: May 22, 2022

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Left to right: Helena (Nellie) Bacon, Mary Bacon (née Mary Allen), Florence (May) Grayson (née Florence Bacon)
Photograph courtesy the family of George and Mary Bacon

A few weeks ago, through this website, a grand daughter of Mary ALLEN 1871-1951 (Mary is sometimes shown as Sally ALLEN) contacted me regarding Mary ALLEN 1871-1951 and George BACON 1878-1944. This was wonderful news and has solved a few of the mysteries surrounding this branch of the family.

Mary ALLEN 1871-1951 was a sister of my great grandmother Ziller JACKLIN (née Ziller ALLEN 1858-1949) and is one of the sisters about whom I had little useful information.

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Left: John (Jack) Bacon, Third from right: Everatt Bacon
Right with pipe: George Bacon
Photograph courtesy the family of George and Mary Bacon

The research is very interesting, so with permission, I have published it here:

"I have been researching my tree for several years but couldn't find anything on my grandmother as there seemed to be two Mary's registered for that year but neither appeared on the 1881 census. I did find a Mary on the 1891 census living with the Hopkinson family at Mill House Farm, Hodsock, Nottinghamshire. This gave her place of birth as Little Gringley, Nottinghamshire.

I then sent for her marriage certificate and this gave her father's name as John Allen - gardener. One of the witnesses was Elizabeth Stockdale. I checked the 1891 census and found the Allen's neighbours were Benjamin and Elizabeth Stockdale. The 1901 census showed the Allen's living in Grove, Nottinghamshire and John as being a garden labourer. I already knew that she gave birth to a son just prior to her marriage, the place of birth being given as Grove, Nottinghamshire. I also discovered that Elizabeth Stockdale's maiden name was Allen but I think she was probably a cousin and not her sister.

Then I took a good look at the 1881 census again and I believe the name given as Sally is actually Polly and I am assured by several people that this was a common nickname for Mary. However this didn't solve the problem of the two Mary's so I sent for both birth certificates - one was the Mary above and the other was born to Elizabeth Allen of Moorgate, Clarborough, Nottinghamshire and no father's name given. This child was born in August 1871 and there is a recorded death of a Mary Allen in September 1871 (aged 0 years) so could be the same person.

My grandmother married George Bacon on October 29th 1894 at Ordsall Parish Church and lived the rest of her life in Everton where George was born and brought up." - Courtesy the family of Mary Allen.

I am extremely grateful to this descendant of Mary ALLEN 1871-1951 for sharing her research and hopefully other descendants of the ALLEN line may see these pages and make contact.

Notes:
I was aware of Elizabeth ALLEN 1865-1946 marrying Ben STOCKDALE, but have few other details than those from the England and Wales Census 1891.

As a child whenever we drove through Everton my father would say "this is where my Aunt lives". Since his father Wilfred JACKLIN 1896-1967 had no siblings then perhaps he meant his Great Aunt. Could this have been Mary ALLEN 1871-1951?

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John Allen and Elizabeth Bird

Published: January 13, 2006    Last modified: May 22, 2022

Ever since I started researching my family history I have been frustrated by the apparent lack of information available for my great great grandfather John ALLEN 1831-Deceased.

I know he lived at Little Gringley, Nottinghamshire, but there were many branches of the ALLEN family in and around the parish of Clarborough, Nottinghamshire and it has been difficult to associate the various individuals with the various households.

Well thanks to a very kind lady from the USA with whom I may share a common ancestor, many of these quandaries have been resolved. I now have a father, mother and siblings for John ALLEN 1831-Deceased the father of my great grandmother Ziller JACKLIN (née Ziller ALLEN 1858-1949).

John ALLEN abt.1789-Deceased born about 1789 and Elizabeth ALLEN (née Elizabeth BIRD 1796-Deceased) born 17th January 1796 married on the 28th November 1816.
John and Elizabeth raised 9 children (there may have been others that died in childhood) and I will list them in chronological order:

Gervase ALLEN, born 1817
Mary ALLEN, born 1818
George ALLEN, born 1823
William ALLEN, born 1824
John ALLEN, born abt. 1827
Harriet ALLEN, born 1828
Vincent ALLEN, born 1833
Jane ALLEN, born 1834
Hannah ALLEN, born 1837

I have a slight discrepancy with the date of birth for John ALLEN (son) but I'm sure a little more research will resolve this.

This lady has a great deal of information regarding the ALLENs who emigrated to the USA in the latter half of the 19th century and I will eventually document and comment on some of these branches.

Updates:
2007-01-30 Having met with Juanita Lewis (the lady I mention) and compared research, Juanita believes we have two distict lines of ALLEN families and two John ALLENs. I am inclined to agree and desperately need to obtain further documentation.

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Family in the island of Puerto Rico
Submitted by Anonymous on Fri, 2006-01-27 22:55

We have your same last name, ancestors came to the island, it seems that the soldier that came or Marine that came in the 1800's liked it so much that he stayed,
if you want more info let me know
my name is Elizabeth.

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