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John Allen and Elizabeth Bird

Published: January 13, 2006    Last modified: May 22, 2022

Ever since I started researching my family history I have been frustrated by the apparent lack of information available for my great great grandfather John ALLEN 1831-Deceased.

I know he lived at Little Gringley, Nottinghamshire, but there were many branches of the ALLEN family in and around the parish of Clarborough, Nottinghamshire and it has been difficult to associate the various individuals with the various households.

Well thanks to a very kind lady from the USA with whom I may share a common ancestor, many of these quandaries have been resolved. I now have a father, mother and siblings for John ALLEN 1831-Deceased the father of my great grandmother Ziller JACKLIN (née Ziller ALLEN 1858-1949).

John ALLEN abt.1789-Deceased born about 1789 and Elizabeth ALLEN (née Elizabeth BIRD 1796-Deceased) born 17th January 1796 married on the 28th November 1816.
John and Elizabeth raised 9 children (there may have been others that died in childhood) and I will list them in chronological order:

Gervase ALLEN, born 1817
Mary ALLEN, born 1818
George ALLEN, born 1823
William ALLEN, born 1824
John ALLEN, born abt. 1827
Harriet ALLEN, born 1828
Vincent ALLEN, born 1833
Jane ALLEN, born 1834
Hannah ALLEN, born 1837

I have a slight discrepancy with the date of birth for John ALLEN (son) but I'm sure a little more research will resolve this.

This lady has a great deal of information regarding the ALLENs who emigrated to the USA in the latter half of the 19th century and I will eventually document and comment on some of these branches.

Updates:
2007-01-30 Having met with Juanita Lewis (the lady I mention) and compared research, Juanita believes we have two distict lines of ALLEN families and two John ALLENs. I am inclined to agree and desperately need to obtain further documentation.

Old Comments:

Family in the island of Puerto Rico
Submitted by Anonymous on Fri, 2006-01-27 22:55

We have your same last name, ancestors came to the island, it seems that the soldier that came or Marine that came in the 1800's liked it so much that he stayed,
if you want more info let me know
my name is Elizabeth.

Vincent Allen: Update

Published: January 8, 2006    Last modified: November 14, 2016

In this post about Vincent ALLEN, I surmised he and John ALLEN may be brothers.

A recent comment on this post states:

"The 1841 census has both John and Vincent in the same household as John and Elizabeth ALLEN at Little Gringley."

I am very grateful for this information and I will follow this line of research a little further.

Vincent Allen and Millicent Allen (née Millicent Morley)

Published: May 7, 2005    Last modified: October 31, 2016

Could Vincent ALLEN be John ALLEN's younger brother?

FHJ Ref: 014
Census: England and Wales Census 1881
Place:
Household: Vincent Allen

SURNAMEFIRST NAME(S)RELSTATUSSEXAGEOCCUPATIONWHERE BORNREMARKS
AllenVincentHeadMarriedMale49Agricultural LabourerClarborough, Nottinghamshire
AllenMillicentWifeMarriedFemale50Washer WomanRanskill, Nottinghamshire

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FHJ Ref: 015
Census: England and Wales Census 1891
Place:
Household: Vincent Allen

SURNAMEFIRST NAME(S)RELSTATUSSEXAGEOCCUPATIONWHERE BORNREMARKS
AllenVincentHeadMarriedMale56Labourer (Em'ee)Little Gringley, Nottinghamshire
AllenMillicentWifeMarriedFemale55Ranskill, Nottinghamshire
AllenRose EDaughterSFemale11ScholarLittle Gringley, Nottinghamshire

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Vincent ALLEN married Mary Millicent MORLEY in 1854.

Vincent Allen

Published: April 27, 2005    Last modified: November 5, 2016

I browsed through the England and Wales Census 1881 entries for Little Gringley, Nottinghamshire. A surprising number of dwellings are recorded, certainly more than my recent visit suggested. I was primarily searching for ALLEN and found the following:

FHJ Ref: 014
Census: England and Wales Census 1881
Place: Little Gringley, Clarborough, Nottinghamshire
Household: Vincent Allen

SURNAMEFIRST NAME(S)RELSTATUSSEXAGEOCCUPATIONWHERE BORNREMARKS
AllenVincentHeadMarriedMale49Agricultural LabourerClarborough, Nottinghamshire
AllenMillicentWifeMarriedFemale50Washer WomanRanskill, Nottinghamshire

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I wonder if it is safe to assume that Vincent ALLEN is a brother to John ALLEN?

Old Comments:

Vincent and John Allen
Submitted by Anonymous on Sun, 2006-01-08 05:42

The 1841 census has both John and Vincent in the same household of John and Elizabeth Allen at Little Gringley.