I found this message on the 'Allens - Nottinghamshire' forum at Genealogy.com
Looking for descendants of John Allen and Emily Whitbread. They had been living in Carlton, Nottinghamshire in 1915+. One of their daughters was named Zillah, after her grandmother on the paternal side.
This is almost certainly a reference to Ziller (Zillah) JACKLIN (née ALLEN). I have replied to the given email address, just hope it is still 'live'.
An online search confirmed my intuition:
Marriages Dec 1872
ALLEN Hannah, Rotherham
COE William Henry, Rotherham
CUTTS Frederick Thomas, Rotherham
GOLLAND Fanny, Rotherham
So is Hannah CUTTS (née ALLEN) Ziller ALLEN's sister?
Updates:
2007-08-31 Though I still do not have any documentary evidence this Hannah CUTTS is undoubtedly Hannah ALLEN, an older sister of Ziller JACKLIN (née ALLEN).
I found a reference to Little Gringley, Nottinghamshire, England on Treetonweb1891 Census. This page records an entry transcribed from the England and Wales Census 1891 for the CUTTS household in Treeton, Rotherham, Yorkshire, England and lists:
FHJ Ref: 011
Census: England and Wales Census 1891
Place: 19 Mill Lane, Treeton, Rotherham, Yorkshire, England
Household: Frederick Cutts
| SURNAME | FIRST NAME(S) | REL | STATUS | SEX | AGE | OCCUPATION | WHERE BORN | REMARKS |
|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| Cutts | Frederick | Head | Married | Male | 36 | Coal Miner | Morthen, Yorkshire | |
| Cutts | Hannah | Wife | Married | Female | 37 | Little Gringley, Nottinghamshire | ||
| Cutts | Eliza | Daughter | Female | 10 | Scholar | Treeton, Yorkshire | ||
| Cutts | Lily | Daughter | Female | 3 | Treeton, Yorkshire |
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Little Gringley being the birthplace of Hannah CUTTS (neé Hannah ALLEN) and with Little Gringley being a sparsely populated hamlet, this could well be a clue worth saving for research into the ALLEN family. The village of Treeton is only a few miles from Aston-cum-Aughton and Swallownest where Daniel JACKLIN and Ziller JACKLIN (née ALLEN) lived after they were married.
The Treetonweb site is well worth browsing as it contains many interesting historical facts about the coal mining area Daniel and Ziller relocated to, presumably for Daniel to find work in the local coal mines.
Updates:
2017-10-12 The Treetonweb web site has been down for quite some time and is most likely 'dead'.
I am aware of Ziller (Zillah) ALLEN living in the household of George SMITHSON at East Drayton, Nottinghamshire but when I carried out a search for ALLEN on the England and Wales Census 1881 I also found an entry for an Elizabeth ALLEN in this household.
FHJ Ref: 6
Census: England and Wales Census 1881
Place: East Drayton, Nottinghamshire, England
Household: John Scott
| Surname | First name(s) | Rel | Status | Sex | Age | Where Born | Occupation | Remarks |
|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| Scott | John | Head | U | Male | 74 | E Drayton, Nottingham, England | Retired Farmer | |
| Salmon | Jane | Sister | M | Female | 66 | E Drayton, Nottingham, England | Housekeeper | |
| Scott | John (Junior) | Nephew | U | Male | 30 | E Drayton, Nottingham, England | Farmer of 56 Acres Employing 1 Lab | |
| Allen | Elizabeth | Serv | U | Female | 17 | Grove, Nottingham, England | Domestic Serv General |
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I note this Elizabeth ALLEN's birthplace is given as Grove, Nottingham, England.
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Ziller Jacklin (née Ziller Allen 1858-1949)
The England and Wales Census 1881 records an Elizabeth ALLEN at Little Gringley, Nottinghamshire. I feel sure this must be Ziller JACKLIN (née Ziller ALLEN 1858-1949). My father recalls he knew his grandmother as Ziller but just to add to the confusion, her marriage certificate records the name Zellaby.
FHJ Ref: 008
Census: England and Wales Census 1881
Place: Little Gringley, Retford, Nottinghamshire
Household: John Allen
| SURNAME | FIRST NAME(S) | REL | STATUS | SEX | AGE | OCCUPATION | WHERE BORN | REMARKS |
|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| Allen | John | Head | Married | Male | 50 | Agricultural Labourer | Little Gringley, Clarborough, Nottinghamshire | |
| Allen | Fanny | Wife | Married | Female | 49 | East Retford, Nottinghamshire | ||
| Allen | Elizabeth | Daur | U | Female | 20 | General Servant Domestic | Little Gringley, Clarborough, Nottinghamshire | |
| Allen | David | Son | U | Male | 14 | Agricultural Labourer | Little Gringley, Clarborough, Nottinghamshire | |
| Allen | John | Son | U | Male | 12 | Scholar | Little Gringley, Clarborough, Nottinghamshire | |
| Allen | Sally | Daur | U | Female | 10 | Scholar | Little Gringley, Clarborough, Nottinghamshire | |
| Allen | Tom | Son | U | Male | 7 | Scholar | Little Gringley, Clarborough, Nottinghamshire | |
| Allen | Harriet | Daur | U | Female | 4 | Little Gringley, Clarborough, Nottinghamshire | ||
| Allen | Jane | G Daur | U | Female | 5 | Workhouse, Clarborough, Nottinghamshire | ||
| Allen | Georgiana | G Daur | U | Female | 2 | Workhouse, Clarborough, Nottinghamshire |
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I think I need to obtain a copy of Ziller's birth certificate in order to clarify both her name at birth and her place of birth.
Updates:
2007-08-31 I later discovered Elizabeth ALLEN 1861-Deceased was a younger sister of Ziller JACKLIN (née Ziller ALLEN 1858-1949). The England and Wales Census 1881 records Ziller (Zillah) now living with the George SMITHSON 1830-Deceased household at East Drayton, Nottinghamshire.
An online search for Daniel JACKLIN 1862-1953 (my paternal great grandfather) lead me to a redundant link; fortunately the cached pages were available. These pages are a transcription of the England and Wales Census 1891.
I feel sure I have retrieved this entry before, either way a new search provides this record:
FHJ Ref: 007
Census: England and Wales Census 1891
Place: Bradley Yard, Aston With Aughton, Rotherham, Yorkshire
Household: Daniel Jacklin
| SURNAME | FIRST NAME(S) | REL | STATUS | SEX | AGE | OCCUPATION | WHERE BORN | REMARKS |
|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| Jacklin | Dan | Head | Married | M | 28 | Coal Miner | Whaddon, Cambridgeshire, | |
| Jacklin | Ziller | Wife | Married | F | 32 | Gringley, Lincolnshire | ||
| Allen | Elizabeth | Niece | S | F | 9 | Gringley, Lincolnshire | ||
| Note: Gringley, Lincolnshire ought to be Little Gringley, Nottinghamshire | ||||||||
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I know Daniel JACKLIN 1862-1953 and Ziller JACKLIN (née Ziller ALLEN 1858-1949) lived at Aston-cum-Aughton before moving to the Darnall area of Sheffield, but now I have the actual address. Even more interesting is the record of Elizabeth ALLEN 1861-Deceased 9 (niece), I guess when I can find the time it will be of value to establish Elizabeth's parents.
This entry records both Ziller and Elizabeth having been born at Gringley, Lincolnshire; other records show Ziller having being born at Little Gringley, Nottinghamshire. This is somewhat confusing! The two villages are only a few miles apart and I seem to recall my father speaking of relatives living at Gringley-on-the-Hill and at nearby Everton.
As usual a great deal more research is required.
Little Gringley, Retford, Nottinghamshire
Leaving East Drayton we moved on to the nearby hamlet of Little Gringley, approximately 4 miles east of Retford, Nottinghamshire. Little Gringley is the birth place of my great grandmother Ziller JACKLIN (née Ziller ALLEN) 1858-1949.
Little Gringley consists of just a few cottages and farms and I doubt it has changed a great deal in over 150 years. There isn't a church in Little Gringley so we were left guessing where the locals would be buried since Little Gringley seemed to be equidistant as the crow flies between Grove and Clarborough.
Updates:
2007-08-06 I finally found the time to visit the Church of Saint Saviour, Retford, Nottinghamshire, take some photographs and explore the attached cemetery. Photographs are in the Gallery.
Old Comments:
Joseph and Gwen Bush
Submitted by Deborah Bush on Tue, 2015-02-03 21:15Hi, I am looking for background information on Joseph and Gwen Bush formally of Retford and wondered if these names mean anything to you. Regards Deborah
Burials for Little Gringley
Submitted by Michael Kirk on Fri, 2014-05-16 17:21My grandfather was Mr Frank Bush who was born at Bush Cottage, Little Gringley on 3rd August 1877. His parents were Joseph and Sarah Bush (nee Woodhead). They are both buried in the churchyard at Clarborough Church. I have lots more information about the Bush family of Little Gringley if anyone is interested.
St. Saviours Church, Retford
Submitted by Neil Jacklin on Mon, 2007-08-06 17:18Keith, thanks for your comment. I was in the area this weekend so I paid a brief visit to St. Saviours. I took some photographs and inspected some of the headstones. Could not find any with the family names I’m looking for: ALLEN and LITTLEWOOD.
Little Gringley
Submitted by Keith Johnson on Wed, 2006-11-29 14:47I would suggest you try (if you haven't already) the churchyard of St Saviours (Retford) for burials from Little Gringley.
Regards Keith
Church of Saint Peter, East Drayton, Nottinghamshire
Continuing my research into Ziller JACKLIN (née Ziller ALLEN 1858-1949) my great grandmother, we decided to visit various villages mentioned in the England and Wales Census of 1881 and 1891. These villages are located east of Retford, Nottinghamshire and I was curious to see if some on the spot research might turn up some more clues.
The first village was East Drayton, we strolled around the churchyard but many of the gravestones were too badly eroded to make out names. As is the norm nowadays, the church itself was closed. Though we could have obtained the keys from named village residents, it seemed a shame to disturb their Sunday afternoon.
Searching the England and Wales Census 1881 I discovered Ziller JACKLIN (née Ziller ALLEN) 1858-1949, my paternal great grandmother, appears to have had an older sister Jane ALLEN 1853-, both were born at Little Gringley, Nottinghamshire.
I surmise Jane ALLEN 1853- married George SMITHSON 1830- of East Drayton, East Retford, Nottinghamshire since the 1881 British Census records Ziller ALLEN 1858-1949 living (as sister-in-law) at East Drayton in the household of George SMITHSON 1830-:
FHJ Ref: 002
Census: England and Wales Census 1881
Place: 4 North Street, East Drayton, Nottingham, England
Household: George Smithson
| SURNAME | FIRST NAME(S) | REL | STATUS | SEX | AGE | OCCUPATION | WHERE BORN | REMARKS |
|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| Smithson | George | Head | M | Male | 51 | Agricultural Labourer | Headon, Nottinghamshire | |
| Smithson | Jane | Wife | M | Female | 28 | Retford, Nottinghamshire | ||
| Allen | John H | Step Son | Male | 9 | Scholar | Lambeth, Surrey | ||
| Allen | Jane | Step Daughter | Female | 7 | Scholar | Retford, Nottinghamshire | ||
| Smithson | Elizabeth | Daughter | Female | 2 | East Drayton, Nottinghamshire | |||
| Allen | Zillah | Sister In Law | U | Female | 22 | Dom Serv Unemployed (Farm) | Little Gringley, Nottinghamshire |
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These records suggest Jane SMITHSON (née Jane ALLEN 1853-) had 2 children, either from a previous marriage or 'out of wedlock'. I will need to conduct further research.