Elizabeth Allen

Published: April 27, 2005    Last modified: March 8, 2015

I am aware of Ziller (Zillah) ALLEN living in the household of George SMITHSON at East Drayton, Nottinghamshire but when I carried out a search for ALLEN on the England and Wales Census 1881 I also found an entry for an Elizabeth ALLEN in this household.

FHJ Ref: 6
Census: England and Wales Census 1881
Place: East Drayton, Nottinghamshire, England
Household: John Scott

Surname First name(s) Rel Status Sex Age Where Born Occupation Remarks
Scott John Head U Male 74 E Drayton, Nottingham, England Retired Farmer
Salmon Jane Sister M Female 66 E Drayton, Nottingham, England Housekeeper
Scott John (Junior) Nephew U Male 30 E Drayton, Nottingham, England Farmer of 56 Acres Employing 1 Lab
Allen Elizabeth Serv U Female 17 Grove, Nottingham, England Domestic Serv General

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I note this Elizabeth ALLEN's birthplace is given as Grove, Nottingham, England.

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Vincent Allen

Published: April 27, 2005    Last modified: November 5, 2016

I browsed through the England and Wales Census 1881 entries for Little Gringley, Nottinghamshire. A surprising number of dwellings are recorded, certainly more than my recent visit suggested. I was primarily searching for ALLEN and found the following:

FHJ Ref: 014
Census: England and Wales Census 1881
Place: Little Gringley, Clarborough, Nottinghamshire
Household: Vincent Allen

SURNAMEFIRST NAME(S)RELSTATUSSEXAGEOCCUPATIONWHERE BORNREMARKS
AllenVincentHeadMarriedMale49Agricultural LabourerClarborough, Nottinghamshire
AllenMillicentWifeMarriedFemale50Washer WomanRanskill, Nottinghamshire

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I wonder if it is safe to assume that Vincent ALLEN is a brother to John ALLEN?

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Vincent and John Allen
Submitted by Anonymous on Sun, 2006-01-08 05:42

The 1841 census has both John and Vincent in the same household of John and Elizabeth Allen at Little Gringley.

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Ziller Jacklin (née Ziller Allen 1858-1949): Census: Little Gringley

Published: April 26, 2005    Last modified: May 22, 2022

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Ziller Jacklin (née Ziller Allen 1858-1949)

The England and Wales Census 1881 records an Elizabeth ALLEN at Little Gringley, Nottinghamshire. I feel sure this must be Ziller JACKLIN (née Ziller ALLEN 1858-1949). My father recalls he knew his grandmother as Ziller but just to add to the confusion, her marriage certificate records the name Zellaby.

FHJ Ref: 008
Census: England and Wales Census 1881
Place: Little Gringley, Retford, Nottinghamshire
Household: John Allen

SURNAMEFIRST NAME(S) RELSTATUSSEXAGEOCCUPATIONWHERE BORNREMARKS
AllenJohnHeadMarriedMale50Agricultural LabourerLittle Gringley, Clarborough, Nottinghamshire
AllenFannyWifeMarriedFemale49East Retford, Nottinghamshire
AllenElizabethDaurUFemale20General Servant DomesticLittle Gringley, Clarborough, Nottinghamshire
AllenDavidSonUMale14Agricultural LabourerLittle Gringley, Clarborough, Nottinghamshire
AllenJohnSonUMale12ScholarLittle Gringley, Clarborough, Nottinghamshire
AllenSallyDaurUFemale10ScholarLittle Gringley, Clarborough, Nottinghamshire
AllenTomSonUMale7ScholarLittle Gringley, Clarborough, Nottinghamshire
AllenHarrietDaurUFemale4Little Gringley, Clarborough, Nottinghamshire
AllenJaneG DaurUFemale5Workhouse, Clarborough, Nottinghamshire
AllenGeorgianaG DaurUFemale2Workhouse, Clarborough, Nottinghamshire

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I think I need to obtain a copy of Ziller's birth certificate in order to clarify both her name at birth and her place of birth.

Updates:
2007-08-31 I later discovered Elizabeth ALLEN 1861-Deceased was a younger sister of Ziller JACKLIN (née Ziller ALLEN 1858-1949). The England and Wales Census 1881 records Ziller (Zillah) now living with the George SMITHSON 1830-Deceased household at East Drayton, Nottinghamshire.

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Daniel Jacklin 1862-1953

Published: April 26, 2005    Last modified: February 2, 2017

An online search for Daniel JACKLIN 1862-1953 (my paternal great grandfather) lead me to a redundant link; fortunately the cached pages were available. These pages are a transcription of the England and Wales Census 1891.

I feel sure I have retrieved this entry before, either way a new search provides this record:

FHJ Ref: 007
Census: England and Wales Census 1891
Place: Bradley Yard, Aston With Aughton, Rotherham, Yorkshire
Household: Daniel Jacklin

SURNAMEFIRST NAME(S)RELSTATUSSEXAGEOCCUPATIONWHERE BORNREMARKS
JacklinDanHeadMarriedM28Coal MinerWhaddon, Cambridgeshire,
JacklinZillerWifeMarriedF32Gringley, Lincolnshire
AllenElizabethNieceSF9Gringley, Lincolnshire
Note: Gringley, Lincolnshire ought to be Little Gringley, Nottinghamshire

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I know Daniel JACKLIN 1862-1953 and Ziller JACKLIN (née Ziller ALLEN 1858-1949) lived at Aston-cum-Aughton before moving to the Darnall area of Sheffield, but now I have the actual address. Even more interesting is the record of Elizabeth ALLEN 1861-Deceased 9 (niece), I guess when I can find the time it will be of value to establish Elizabeth's parents.

This entry records both Ziller and Elizabeth having been born at Gringley, Lincolnshire; other records show Ziller having being born at Little Gringley, Nottinghamshire. This is somewhat confusing! The two villages are only a few miles apart and I seem to recall my father speaking of relatives living at Gringley-on-the-Hill and at nearby Everton.

As usual a great deal more research is required.

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Sarah Anne Hillman

Published: April 19, 2005    Last modified: November 7, 2016

Just to confuse matters, another Sarah Anne BELLAMY, by marriage. Though I note 'Anne' with an 'e'.

Marriages Dec 1888
BELLAMY William Henry, Ecclesall B
HILLMAN Sarah Anne, Ecclesall B

Updates:
2005-12-15 Further research has shown this data is probably NOT linked to my family. This data may prove useful to other researchers so I will retain it.

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Frederick Rotherham: Death

Published: April 18, 2005    Last modified: November 14, 2016

I may have solved the Frederick ROTHERHAM problem. I found an entry for March 1887 recording the death of a Frederick ROTHERHAM, the age at death is given as 28 years. Now this would explain why when I ran searches on the England and Wales Census 1901 against Frederick and Sarah Ann ROTHERHAM (née BELLAMY), predicted dates did not agree. I am still using conjecture, but will trust it for the time being. Of course there is still the problem of little Frederick ROTHERHAM, who according to the England and Wales Census 1891 would have been born in 1888 or 1889.

Updates:
2005-12-15 Further research has shown this data is probably NOT linked to my family. This data may prove useful to other researchers so I will retain it.

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Sarah Ann Bellamy: Marriage

Published: April 18, 2005    Last modified: May 22, 2022

I found a marriage for Sarah Ann BELLAMY:

Heeley Church Parish Registers 1891-1895
Marriage entry - September 1894
29. By Rev W Odom, Alfred SHORE to Sarah Ann BELLAMY

Unfortunately no addresses are given.

I have spent quite a few hours trying to match Sarah Ann BELLAMY and Frederick ROTHERHAM. Results obtained for Frederick ROTHERHAM and Sarah ROTHERHAM have left me more confused than ever; dates and ages do not concur. So this latest reference to Sarah Ann BELLAMY leaves me more intrigued than ever. I may have to bow to the inevitable, spend money, and obtain the full England and Wales Census 1901 entries or obtain appropriate certificates. Of course conjecture just breeds more conjecture so I will ponder this for a while.

Updates:
2005-12-15 Further research has shown this data is probably NOT linked to my family. This data may prove useful to other researchers so I will retain it.

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George Bellamy

Published: April 17, 2005    Last modified: November 7, 2016

Another search of the England and Wales Census 1901 establishes a George BELLAMY age 62 and gives his occupation as 'General Carter and Grocer'. This is undoubtedly my gg Grandfather, since his date of birth is compatible with my GEDCOM.

George Bellamy, 62, Yorks, Sheffield, General Carter & Grocer

So we have a Grocer in the family!

Updates:
2005-12-15 Further research has shown this data is probably NOT linked to my family. This data may prove useful to other researchers so I will retain it.

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